Game 162 Chat

2:00
Jeff Zimmerman: Welcome.

2:02
Jeff Zimmerman: I’ll start with the BOS-WAS game (I want to see Sale pitch), but will personally move to any game that is close.

2:02
Brian: Lets go Toronto and Seattle. Losses for Bos and NYY mean more baseball. I am on team MORE BASEBALL!!!

2:02
Matt: Last day of H2H championship, need Ks and protecting WHIP. Start which of the following? Sale @ WAS, Wacha @ NYY, Sanmartin @ PIT?

2:02
Jeff Zimmerman: I think it’s Sale, then Sanmartin, with Wacha dead last

2:02
Ryan: Thanks for being a great host Jeff

2:03
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m glad. Sure beats lining up FAAB

2:03
Z: Hey Jeff, you seemed cooler than most on Yordan coming into this year. Have things changed at all, or will you still be concerned about knee health long term?

2:04
Jeff Zimmerman: I was off before ST, but once it started and he was running, I was in. JDM was the same way.

2:04
Dirty Pete Rose: Matt Manning has looked better lately after looking very shakey. Is his ceiling still as high as it was before the season?

2:05
Jeff Zimmerman: Last time I dug in, he was a mess. I’ll check at some point this season.

2:05
Chip Chipperson: Hello Jeff.  Who do you think the Cardinals will want to play in Round #1:  Dodgers or Giants?

2:06
Jeff Zimmerman: They will get the chance to face both. I think it’s the Dodgers because I would not want to face Scherzer.

2:08
Jeff Zimmerman: Who are we sweating?

2:10
Jeff Zimmerman: I need a good start by Webb

2:10
Jeff Zimmerman: If the playoffs weren’t on the line, I’d like to see how Pablo Lopez looks

2:13
Jeff Zimmerman: I know the chat will be slow, but currently, the queue is empty so ask away.

2:14
zurzles: Need a good start by Webb and every single hitter on my team

2:16
Jeff Zimmerman: Agree with Webb. I didn’t trust anyone to throw on Sunday so at least wit Webb, everyone got the early start

2:16
Dan: Last day for add/drops in a shallow OBP dynasty, who do you grab–Eddie Rosario, McNeil, Dom Smith, Dylan Moore, Yaz, Alejandro Kirk…or any name out of the hat

2:17
Jeff Zimmerman: McNiell and Yaz

2:17
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m tempted with Kirk but I’ve made it a rule to never keep catchers

2:17
Ryan: SPRINGER!

2:17
Ryan: Springer’s knee is healing just in time. MAYBE?

2:20
Jeff Zimmerman:

George Springer off LHP Bruce Zimmermann – 107.4 mph, 31 degrees (439 ft Home Run)
82.9 mph Changeup
#Orioles @ #BlueJays (B1)
3 Oct 2021
2:20
Jeff Zimmerman:

Jorge Polanco off RHP Jackson Kowar – 103.2 mph, 26 degrees (404 ft Home Run)
94.1 mph 4-Seam Fastball
#MNTwins @ #Royals (T1)
3 Oct 2021
2:20
Jeff Zimmerman:

Shohei Ohtani off LHP Tyler Anderson – 112.9 mph, 20 degrees (418 ft Home Run)
86.4 mph Cutter
#Angels @ #Mariners (T1)
3 Oct 2021
2:21
Jeff Zimmerman: Chris Sale dealing, strikes out the side

2:22
boobie miles: Are any of Rutschman, Torkelson and/or Mqx Meyer in the majors vby the end of April next season.? Also, how high are you on Andrew Vaughn for next season?

2:23
Jeff Zimmerman: I think Rit and Tork are up if hitting at all

2:23
Jeff Zimmerman: Meyer might be a little later.

2:24
Jeff Zimmerman:

Luis Robert off LHP Tyler Alexander – 117.7 mph, 19 degrees (430 ft Home Run)
90.1 mph Sinker
#Tigers @ #WhiteSox (B1)
3 Oct 2021
2:25
gramble: In a standard 5×5 league with only 3 keepers and they reset every 3 years. Have an obvious keeper in Acuna, and then deciding between Bogaerts, Tucker, Olson, Starling, Alvarez and Wander for the last 2. Are any of those going to be top 20 draft picks? If I keep less than 3 I get picks at the top of the draft, so I can gamble on potentially getting dibs on a better player.

2:25
Jeff Zimmerman: Here is one mock so far:

Updated “Ridiculously Early” Mock Draft for 2022 #FantasyBaseball

There is plenty to have an opinion about, so let’s hear it below:

Who is too high? (Perez? Garcia?)
Too low? (Semien? Riley? Alcantara?)

27 Sep 2021
2:27
Jeff Zimmerman: Looks like you have several keepers

2:27
Go Red Sox: Is Frankie Montas worth $15 next year….top 10 AL starter?

2:27
Jeff Zimmerman: In just AL only, maybe. Miixed, no. I’m not sold

2:28
gramble: Reiver Sanmartin is decidedly not dealing

2:28
Jeff Zimmerman: I’ll take your work for it now

2:28
Andrew: Any insight on why the Twins didn’t call up Jose Miranda?  All he did was hit at two levels, and it seemed like a good opportunity to see what he can do against major league pitching.

2:30
Jeff Zimmerman: I think they were quickly out of it and didn’t want to start the service time. And had the Donaldson-Cruz taking up DH and 3B

2:30
Ryan: DVR said he missed a lot with early drafts. How do you change approach year to year with identifying future breakouts in early drafts. Is it impossible?

2:32
Jeff Zimmerman: I never go with breakouts, barely. DVR must be a little annoyed with my since I’m in three leagues with him and I am winning all three … one is real close.

2:33
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m only 2 spots ahead and Doug Dennis in a draft and hold

2:34
Jeff Zimmerman: I think the key is finding veteran breakouts. There was signs of Grossman’s and Votto breakout last year

2:34
Brian: Tor with the early edge… is the the most valuable run of the entire season up till now?

2:35
Jeff Zimmerman: For sure. I’m sure we’ll have a playoff of probability graph.

2:35
Chip Chipperson: Would the Cubs current roster be strong enough to contend for the Triple A crown this season?  Methinks not!

2:36
Jeff Zimmerman: Omaha was loaded

2:36
Jeff Zimmerman: That team was nuts

2:36
Z: I’m in a pretty shallow 5×5 OBP league and thinking about next year. Which hitters do you think keep or come closest to their 2021 production next season: Votto, Riley, Mullins, Reynolds

2:36
Jeff Zimmerman: Mullins for sure … Riley is next

2:37
Oddball Herrera: Not an entirely fair way to frame it – but I find it funny that the Kelenic service time manipulation Spring firebreathers framed it in terms of competitiveness, and Kelenic and his -.7 WAR may be a big chunk of the difference between postseason and no postseason for the Mariners, but in the wrong direction!

2:37
Jeff Zimmerman: I had way too may shares of him and he was given almost a month and failed.

2:38
Brian: I love Ohtani and wish him nothing but well but, that HR was lame for team entropy!

2:38
Jeff Zimmerman: true

2:38
Jeff Zimmerman: What???

2:38
Jeff Zimmerman:

Tommy Edman off RHP Alec Mills – 105.7 mph, 26 degrees (422 ft Home Run)
88.4 mph Sinker
#Cubs @ #STLCards (B1)
3 Oct 2021
2:39
Oddball Herrera: How can a mock draft even be meaningful right now when you don’t know whether guys like Semien or Story are going to be bouncing doubles off the green monster or turning homers into easy outs in Citi Field?

2:41
Jeff Zimmerman: It’s a start point, especially with some drafts for $$$ starting after the postseason. I want to see the 20th to 30th round

2:41
Jeff Zimmerman: Washington up 1-0

2:41
Drip: Jeff, are you ready for Joctober?

2:42
Jeff Zimmerman: I’ve never been a fan of Joc

2:42
Brian: NYY is in trouble in the 3rd, I would already pull JT. Thoughts please?

2:43
Jeff Zimmerman: Probably not until they score

2:44
Chip Chipperson: Who do you see the Padres interviewing for the manager job when Tingler presumably is let go tomorrow?

2:45
Jeff Zimmerman: I don’t know, but I think they need to fire the Mets medical team

2:45
Frank Thomas the Tank Engine: Woooooooooo baseball!

2:45
Jeff Zimmerman: Hell yea

2:45
Brian: The future has favored you Mr. Zimmerman.

2:46
Jeff Zimmerman: Thanks

2:46
Go Red Sox: Andrew Vaughn a top 5 1B in AL only next season? Also, how worried should I be about Carlos Rodon next year?…I believe in the talent…not sure i’m convinced he can stay healthy two years in a row.

2:46
Jeff Zimmerman: No, not even close.

2:47
Jeff Zimmerman: I think you have a reason to be concerned. We can see if he makes it through the post season

2:47
Oddball Herrera: Has Happ turned into a potential keeper in 12 team keep 9 for you? He is tempting me as a post hyper.

2:47
Jeff Zimmerman: That’s close

2:48
Jeff Zimmerman: Toronto and the Angels with decent leads right now.

2:49
Jeff Zimmerman: Chris Sale batting …

2:49
Jeff Zimmerman: … and made contact

2:51
Jeff Zimmerman: This Adon kid of WAS is looking good

2:53
Jeff Zimmerman: Vlad

2:53
Jeff Zimmerman: 5-0 Toronto

2:53
Jeff Zimmerman:

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. off RHP Marcos Diplan – 102.7 mph, 28 degrees (394 ft Home Run)
94.6 mph 4-Seam Fastball
#Orioles @ #BlueJays (B2)
3 Oct 2021
2:55
Jeff Zimmerman: Queue is empty again so comment or ask away

2:56
Andrew: I think this is the only time I’ve ever used the quad-box feature mlb.tv has. It’s surprisingly possible to follow 4 games at once!

2:57
Jeff Zimmerman: It shows how slow baseball moves.

2:57
Jeff Zimmerman: It is perfect for days like today.

2:58
clh: M. Canha $13, J. Kelenic $2, A.Vaughn $4, R. Pressley  $13, J. Romano $13, C. Rodon $12 and A. Kirilloff $4, AL only OBP league…need to keep 5

2:58
Jeff Zimmerman: Kiriloff, Kelenic, Rodon and ……

2:59
Jeff Zimmerman: Pressley but I don’t like it

2:59
Go Red Sox!: Reid Detmers more of a mid-rotation starter, or is he more than that?

3:00
Jeff Zimmerman: I like the thought of him being a team’s #3

3:01
Jeff Zimmerman: He needs to get the walks under control with his flyball nature

3:01
clh…: yeah, I hate keeping closers!

3:01
clh…: Montas at $15 or Pressley or Romano at $13…AL only…leaning Montas

3:02
Jeff Zimmerman: I didn’t notice you were the same person who mentioned Montas. Montas for sure ahead of the other options.

3:04
Jeff Zimmerman: Big showdown in WAS, Soto vs Sale, no out, 2 on

3:07
WhoIsZorbist: Giants trying to goad Longo into retiring batting him 8th?

3:07
Jeff Zimmerman: I wonder if his plantar fasciitis is acting up

3:07
Gov. Richie Rich of IL: Are the Chicago Bears smart or idiots to want to move to Arlington Heights?  What sez you?

3:08
Jeff Zimmerman: This is not a football chat

3:08
clh…: Max Fried worth keeping at $17 in NL only? Already have Woodruff and Wheeler at $15 each.

3:08
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes

3:09
WhoIsZorbist: HAPPY FINAL JOE WEST DAY EVERYBODY

3:09
Jeff Zimmerman: Just Angel Hernandez to go

3:10
Ron Wotus Last Game: I was out of it early in a dynasty league but I rebuilt an awesome offense by trading expiring contracts.  No one would budge on pitching though so I’ve been collecting cheap young starters and prospects off the waiver wire.

3:11
Jeff Zimmerman: If you need pitching, have 5 spots open to start the year and get ready to ponce on popup guys like Ynoa and Ober

3:11
Jeff Zimmerman: Sale walks in a run

3:14
Gov. Richie Rich of IL: In memory of Country Joe West retiring, I will jam to some Country Joe and the Fish.  Or maybe find Joe West singing with his band on YouTube somewhere

3:14
Jeff Zimmerman: Respect

3:14
Ron Wotus Last Game: I’ve been collecting cheap young pitchers in a dynasty league.  I’m thinking of keeping Skubal, Ynoa, Ryan, Ranger Suarez and Desclafani.  I’m thinking of cutting Gomber, Edward Cabrera, Elieser Hernandez and Aaron Ashby.  Sound good?  I’m on the fence about whether Houck belongs in the keep or cut group

3:15
Jeff Zimmerman: Brb in 5, going to walk around for a bit

3:18
WhoIsZorbist: Sale’s out.

3:18
clh…: are the Padres gonna let Tatis run next season after his probable off-season shoulder surgery?

3:19
Jeff Zimmerman: I don’t know, think he’s on my don’t draft list unless he really falls

3:19
Jeff Zimmerman: Dever HR

3:19
Jeff Zimmerman: 2-1 WAS

3:19
Ron Wotus Last Game: Thanks for doing this chat BTW.  It’s really difficult to find content about 2022 this week even though today is the last day to add free agents for next year in a lot of dynasty leagues.

3:20
Jeff Zimmerman: No problem.

3:20
Jeff Zimmerman: I expect most R

3:21
Jeff Zimmerman: TOR fans to move over to the WAS-BOS game

3:21
WhoIsZorbist: Rays playoff rotation is about to be 4 rookies (Mc, Baz, Rasmusses, Patino), and 2 of their 3 best players are rookies (Franco, Aroz). The year after they went to the World Series. Sick.

3:22
Jeff Zimmerman: If they had any money, they’d be insane. Just wait until SF can spend

3:22
si.or.no: Adon is getting some really bad swings from the Sox

3:23
Jeff Zimmerman: His 2021 ADP just shot up into the top 30 rounds

3:24
Jeff Zimmerman: Verdugo with a Tootban

3:24
WhoIsZorbist: Of the Sox, Jays, Yankees, Rays want ______. I say Yankees, because offense is pretty meh, and pitching is very meh when Cole can only be used once, game 3 at earliest.

3:25
Jeff Zimmerman: Anyone but Toronto

3:25
Brian: Why isnt Franco as good a hitter as Juan Soto yet… I am disappoints!

3:26
Jeff Zimmerman: The deal is as a 22-year-old, Soto might be the best hitter in the league.

3:26
Ron Wotus Last Game: Did anyone see Muncy’s wrist injury?  sounds bad

3:26
Jeff Zimmerman: No, sorry

3:27
MonoStereo: Thanks for doing these all season! Currently up 10-3 in my final. Go M’s!!!! Go Jays!!!!

3:27
Jeff Zimmerman: You’re welcome. Good for you, I have 3 that are way too close.

3:29
Jeff Zimmerman: Maybe just 2, Ron Shandler added a point in LABR.

3:29
WhoIsZorbist: HR Devers. So much action.

3:29
Ron Wotus Last Game: Odds of a Carrasco bounceback next year?

3:30
Jeff Zimmerman: He needs to be healty

3:30
Jeff Zimmerman: He’s good enough to win it if he throws a full season

3:31
quinnoconn: Buehler over Burnes for Cy Young? Gunna throw 40+ more innings at basically the same ERA. Big difference in FIP, but for awards should that be the deciding factor?

3:31
Jeff Zimmerman: It’s really close IMO, people will be splitting pubic hairs to decide this one.

3:32
quinnoconn: I saw it. He was in absolute agony

3:32
WhoIsZorbist: Agree or disagree, no other option. Bellinger and El Gary both get non tendered.

3:32
Jeff Zimmerman: No on Bellinger. They need to get him healthy first.

3:33
Jeff Zimmerman: I think the Yankees will bring in a C and trade Gary

3:33
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Thoughts on Drew Rasmussen for 2022 in only leagues?

3:34
Jeff Zimmerman: Good option, but he could pull a Fleming at just be useless. Don’t overspend so he’s dropable

3:34
Brian: Is there any indication that PIT will give Cruz a shot at SS next year?

3:34
Jeff Zimmerman: Besides that they just called him up

3:35
Jeff Zimmerman: I expect he’s called up around the super-2 date

3:35
WhoIsZorbist: top 4 AL MVP vote getters Shohei, Vladito, Semien…Brandon Lowe?

3:35
Jeff Zimmerman: You forgot Sal Perez

3:35
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Will Luis Garcia (HOU) be as good next year?

3:36
Jeff Zimmerman: I need to see how much he threw but he’s perfectly fine

3:36
Gov. Richie Rich of IL: Would a White Sox-Cardinals 2021 World Series be a good matchup?

3:36
Jeff Zimmerman: No

3:37
Jeff Zimmerman: The Cards probably won’t make it out of the Wild Card

3:37
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: How good will Witt Jr be next year? Will Pratto and Melendez be regulars and will they be worth owning?

3:38
Jeff Zimmerman: He could be special IMO, might take a year. As for the other two, they have a little more swing and miss and might struggle a bit more.

3:38
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: Seriously which place will Sal Perez finish in MVP voting?

3:38
quinnoconn: Judge will get votes

3:39
Jeff Zimmerman: Sal will be around 5th to 6th IMO, I could be wrong

3:39
Brian: my bad, missed that he just got a call up

3:39
Jeff Zimmerman: And destroyed a ball yesterday.

3:39
Jeff Zimmerman: It’ll all be service time manipulation

3:40
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: While he may still have value next year, sell all shares of Nicky Lopez in keeper leagues this offseason, right?

3:41
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes, if anytealsone is buying. Try to find the guy needing steals..

3:41
Jeff Zimmerman: 2 on, 1 out for Red Sox

3:41
si.or.no: Looking at the top 30 position players on the leaderboard — Nicky Lopez is on there?!?

3:42
Jeff Zimmerman: Decent AVG and SB’s go a long ways.

3:42
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: Ignore the Royals starters in next year’s drafts?

3:44
Jeff Zimmerman: No, I’d take darts on Singer and Bubic.

3:44
Jeff Zimmerman: They showed promise at times

3:44
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: Which is the easiest category now to wait on or outright punt in drafts?

3:45
Jeff Zimmerman: Run and RBI, they can be streamed in season

3:45
Jeff Zimmerman: In 12 team or shallower, Saves

3:45
Guest: Thoughts on who gets most ABs catching for AZ? Meaning ABs as a catcher.

3:45
Jeff Zimmerman: Kelly

3:46
WhoIsZorbist: Cronenworth would solve so many problems for the Yankees. What’s the likelihood San Diego says “We are 30 games behind the 2nd best team in this division” and starts their bi-annual sell off?

3:46
Jeff Zimmerman: 0%

3:46
Gov. Richie Rich of IL: Since SF has a big lead now, should I cancel my plans to watch NL Game #163 tomorrow?

3:46
Jeff Zimmerman: No, it’s such a pain to redo it if they choke

3:47
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: Does Hosmer get traded and how much do the Royals give up for him?

3:47
Jeff Zimmerman: Only the Royals would pay up

3:47
Jeff Zimmerman: I think the Padres will need to eat 90% of the contract

3:48
Jeff Zimmerman: JD Martinez hurt himself run to the OF at 2B

3:50
WhoIsZorbist: I always thought the Yankees were the Red Sox biggest rival. Turns out it’s been the Orioles all along.

3:50
Brian: At this point how much evidence do we have that Seager will be better than Tatis or vice versa in the next 4 years

3:51
Jeff Zimmerman: It’s Tatis and it’s not even close

3:51
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: In deeper standard leagues, if two relievers are projected for same value, but one is an undisputed closer and the other is in a committee but with better peripherals, who do you prefer?

3:51
Jeff Zimmerman: I want those saves, I can find those ratios elsewhere

3:51
$11 Worth of Taco Bell: Worst pick (for non-injury reasons) you made this year? Best?

3:52
Jeff Zimmerman: Non-injury: Price, tons of Happ. Lots of injuries

3:52
Jeff Zimmerman: I was all over Grossman and Rodon

3:52
si.or.no: Sometimes that second base bag just jumps out at ya.

3:53
Brian: What is a reasonable expectation for CLE to spend their money on this offseason if ownership has been honest about substantially raising payroll. lets say they have 100 Million to spend, im a generous sort.

3:54
Jeff Zimmerman: I think they need to go the SF route and make a couple OF with platoons

3:54
Jeff Zimmerman: BOS-WAS about to be blown open

3:55
Jack Elder: Is the 2021 Tyler O’Neill the guy we’ve been expecting for so long … or, is he a good bet to do this again next year?

3:55
Jeff Zimmerman: I think he could repeat

3:55
Brian: Leave Straw in center?

3:56
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes, but no more .750 OPS hitters

3:56
WhoIsZorbist: The Marlins have 2022s best pitching staff in baseball? In a very weak division, ff they don’t end up with one of the SS, what should their fans riot about?

3:57
Jeff Zimmerman: The biggest issue with that staff is health besides Alcantra. I could see 5 guys on the IL

3:57
Hal Morris the Cat: Will Jo Adell end up at least a decent regular?

3:57
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes and maybe a little more. I really think he was rushed

3:58
Brian: LA and TR have their games in the bag, time to focus on TBvNY.

3:58
Jeff Zimmerman: And WAS-BOS

3:58
Jack Elder: Was Lamonte Wade ever a likely prospect, or more like a suspect who done good?

3:59
Jeff Zimmerman: He has issues and that’s why his being platooned.

3:59
PS: I kind of wish for days like this, there was a playoff odds tool that pulled in the day’s WPA numbers.

3:59
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m sure we will have it tonight or tomorrow

3:59
WhoIsZorbist: Stupid sexy Garret Richards

4:00
Jeff Zimmerman: Yea, he’s trying

4:00
Ragbrai: Going into ‘22 is Estevez the Colo closer or are they just riding the hot hand at the end of the season?

4:00
Jeff Zimmerman: No freaking way I’ll guess what COL will do.

4:01
Brian: Is Tatis Jr. projected better than ARod at this point in their careers?

4:01
Jeff Zimmerman: Not sure

4:02
Jeff Zimmerman: 3-1 WsH

4:03
WhoIsZorbist: Lowe and Franco have Brujan on the outside looking in. Goldschmidt/Arenado have Gorman on the outside looking in. I get that prospect for prospect is rare, but that’s just a perfect match, right? And Rays have done it before recently Aroz/Liberatore

4:03
Jeff Zimmerman: For sure

4:04
A Tribe Called Kipnis: Can hold Buxton for $15 in standard roto AL league but must be for 2 years. Assuming he stays in AL, keep him?

4:04
Jeff Zimmerman: When he plays, he’s worth it

4:04
Jeff Zimmerman: 5-1 WAS, I’m going to NYY and TB

4:06
Ragbrai: Toussaint and Weathers were highly regarded young pitchers but just have shown the consistency yet. Are either in a starting rotation to begin the year in ‘22?

4:06
Jeff Zimmerman: Probably not

4:07
Phanatic: Where do the Phillies go from here? Their stars and scrubs approach is clearly not going to work, and the farm system is in shambles. Curious who you see as trade/FA candidates (either to bring in or ship out), and what DD and others might do to bolster an atrocious defense and rotation/bullpen.

4:07
Jeff Zimmerman: I think they need to get a bunch of 2 WAR guys and hope some hit. It’s really tough with no one coming up.

4:08
Jeff Zimmerman: brb … taking a break during the pitching change

4:15
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m going with a Sam Adams Octoberfest after having a margarita bulldog for the first two hours.

4:15
Jeff Zimmerman: I have two leagues still way to close to call

4:15
Jeff Zimmerman: One final note, it’s going to be wild in the standings will the Saves and Wins all rolling in at once

4:16
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Which World Series matchup do you most want to see?

4:16
Jeff Zimmerman: Giants-Rays

4:16
Ragbrai: Milwaukee pitching seems fine so it seems their biggest need is offense. Do they need more help with the IF or OF? Do they get help in FA or via trade?

4:17
Jeff Zimmerman: Not sure… I haven’t looked

4:17
WhoIsZorbist: MLB doing a great job of growing the game by hyping today, having it live up to the hype, and not having a single game as “game of the day”, and MLB network not able to be streamed by comcast/xfinity customers. Manfed is trash.

4:18
Jeff Zimmerman: yep

4:18
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: What the freak do the Angels do this offseason?

4:18
Jeff Zimmerman: They need to raise the floor, just add some average hitters and several starters

4:19
Jeff Zimmerman: Choi >>> Wendle

4:19
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: Which surprise player do the Rays trade this offseason?

4:19
Jeff Zimmerman: I think they add a couple pitchers like Cobb

4:21
Guest: Had good chance for 2nd (1st running away) in an AL only traditional league.  Traded $1 Chris Flexen (3 year contract) for expiring Cole (could have traded J Merryweather ($1 3yr contract).  Of course, with hindsight, I made the wrong decision.  Any thoughts?

4:21
Jeff Zimmerman: it was fine

4:21
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Do you spend the off-season getting hired to teach rich guys how to play fantasy kind of like Brad Pitt with Topher Grace at the beginning of Oceans 11?

4:22
Jeff Zimmerman: No, I do a lot of prep for other sources. I did all of Lindy’s SP’s and 2B this year.

4:22
Jeff Zimmerman: And I have a book on my Process

4:22
WhoIsZorbist: Kyle Freeland pre/post All Star is a completely different pitcher. (good enough for 22nd on post allstar fWAR leaderboard). FIP and xFIP under 4. Top 20% spin rate. Just someone to keep an eye on.

4:23
Jeff Zimmerman: He’s a streamer for me, not someone I’ll draft

4:23
Jeff Zimmerman: He’s great in a draft and hold or best ball

4:24
A2k: 5 to keep: Hitters – Wander, Tucker, Acuna, Devers, Cedric; and Pitchers – Burnes, Ray, Buehler, Giolito, Peralta, Sandy, Fried

4:26
Jeff Zimmerman: Acuna, Devers, Tucker, Buehler, Burnes …. I could be talked into Ray, Gio, Mullins

4:27
Jeff Zimmerman: Randy Arozarena with a great tag

4:28
WhoIsZorbist: Arozarena stole 2nd, took 3rd on flyout to Gallo. on3rd, 1 out in 8th. Scoreless.

4:30
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: MLB Network needs to go full Red Zone when not showing games

4:30
Jeff Zimmerman: Agree

4:30
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: What should the Padres do?

4:31
Jeff Zimmerman: Fire some more guys.

4:31
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: Oh no Dave Cameron

4:35
Jeff Zimmerman: Sorry, I’m checking my teams, I have have $2K still up for grabs

4:35
WhoIsZorbist: A’s blow it up? Outside Murphy, pretty much every prospect from 2018 onward has busted. (Luzardo, Puk,Austin Beck, Armenteros, Kaprellian). Getting pretty expensive, and really only 1 more year of their stars.

4:35
Jeff Zimmerman: They have to go full one way or another. I think the LV is key to every thing.

4:36
WhoIsZorbist: Wasn’t it Kittredge that drilled someone to start the Sabathia “that’s for you, bitch” moment? He might close the game to beat them today.

4:36
Jeff Zimmerman: No idea

4:38
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Is Josh Lowe worth drafting next year? Power-speed combo would be nice.

4:38
Jeff Zimmerman: I just don’t trade the Rays will play im

4:38
Jeff Zimmerman: play him

4:40
Jeff Zimmerman: Rays coming to blows in the OF

4:41
Brian: Franco is going to be backed there

4:41
Jeff Zimmerman: I’m sure he’s used to getting the call, but it’s the OF’s call no matter what.

4:42
WhoIsZorbist: Lowe is RF next year, no? Certainly they won’t pay Margot a 2nd year of arb. Meadows a definite trade possibilty too.

4:42
Jeff Zimmerman: Way too many ifs for TB

4:42
WhoIsZorbist: Franco 6 years younger than “fellow rookie” Aroz

4:43
Jeff Zimmerman: Doesn’t matter age, just OF >> SS on those calls

4:45
Brian: agree completely that is the outfielders ball I was just saying I expected the announcers to back Franco because he is the bigger star.

4:45
Jeff Zimmerman: That would not surprise me

4:46
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: Greinke going for 3 inning save and whoops

4:46
Jeff Zimmerman: He’s done. Already off my 2021 draft boards

4:46
pak: No projections yet obviously but off the cuff, would Josiah Gray be a reasonable value at $6 next season 10-team NL-only? Also your book helped fine tune my own my auction prep and in-season mgmt. Thanks!

4:46
Jeff Zimmerman: No probablem and easily a $6 player.

4:49
Brian: What do you think is a reasonable ADP for Bellinger next year, Mid 8th with other boom or bust 1b?

4:49
Jeff Zimmerman: Sometime after Votto and Gurriel

4:49
Evan: Verlander worth taking a flyer on for next year?

4:50
Jeff Zimmerman: For sure but make sure you’re will to drop after a couple weeks

4:51
WhoIsZorbist: In fairness, it’s Franco’s ball until he gets called off. The OF has the priority, so he has to call off. He pointed to his ear as if to say “I didn’t hear you”.

4:51
Jeff Zimmerman: OMG, the Rays are going with Fleming?

4:52
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: Civale looked good today. Optimistic for next year?

4:52
Jeff Zimmerman: It was such a roller coaster with him

4:55
Jeff Zimmerman: Sorry if I’m slow, I have two insanely close leagues

4:57
WhoIsZorbist: Oh God. Margot about to be the no name Rays RH to end the Yankees season off Chapman.

4:57
Jeff Zimmerman: or not

4:58
Guest: Fleming has 2.58 xFIP against lefties – 2 of yankees next 3 guys are lefties

4:58
Jeff Zimmerman: I figured it would be someone else, but I’m not going to argue much with TB decsions.

4:58
WhoIsZorbist: Sox tied it

4:59
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: What’s the category you are watching with the biggest impact? Watching one league where a 1 run difference is currently the decider.

5:00
Jeff Zimmerman: Tigers and Sox, I have Fulmer and he has Hendricks

5:00
Brian: Do we think that Gose has really found control enough for the FB to be a ++ pitch

5:00
Jeff Zimmerman: Maybe, but he needs more than that

5:01
Rohan: As a Jays fan, this torture is what we live for. Also, get the job done @nats

5:01
Jeff Zimmerman: Sox and Yankees tied

5:01
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: But what if Greinke comes to camp with a knuckleball?

5:02
Jeff Zimmerman: Proof there is a god with humor

5:04
How Bobby Grich Stole Christmas: Hendricks can’t get a save, right?

5:04
Jeff Zimmerman: Not any more unless the CWS comes back

5:05
Brian: Is Clase a first tier closer going into next year?… I lean yes for floor but the K rate seems iffy.

5:05
Jeff Zimmerman: I think he’s one of the last few taken

5:07
Jeff Zimmerman: Yankees with runners at 2nd and 3rd with one out. Crazy game

5:08
Jeff Zimmerman: brb, beer run

5:10
WhoIsZorbist: Judge has never had a walk off hit in his career.

5:10
Jeff Zimmerman: won’t today

5:11
Jeff Zimmerman: Yamkees Win

5:12
WhoIsZorbist: shit

5:12
Jeff Zimmerman: Yep

5:13
Jeff Zimmerman: And now back to Boston – Washington

5:15
WhoIsZorbist: Yankee fans gonna talk about this game 162 1-0 win like it’s game 162 a decade ago when they blew a 7-0 lead.

5:15
WhoIsZorbist: I was like Maxwell Smart. I wanted KAOS.

5:16
Jeff Zimmerman: I sort of wanted my fantasy seasons over tomorrow

5:17
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes, Haase with the out, Fulmer can get a Save

5:19
Jeff Zimmerman: Sorry, I’m checking my own leagues. I think I’m safe … maybe

5:21
WhoIsZorbist: Nice moment for Aaron Judge a month before he gets no extension offer because Hal and the gang used all the petty cash to Giancarlo. If Judge wants to be a Yankee for life, he better learn how to sell popcorn or something. Or agree to be host of a new show on YES Jr.

5:22
Jeff Zimmerman: We’ll see, the owers and players need to come to an agreement first

5:24
Al Gone Quinn: Lol

5:24
Al Gone Quinn: Verdugo!

5:25
Jeff Zimmerman: WTF, Detroit and Chicago are playing in a decent rain

5:26
WhoIsZorbist: Are the Nationals going to Mike Trout Juan Soto, and finish in 4th for the rest of his career? That’s pretty much the worst farm in baseball with next to zero talent in the big leagues.

5:27
Jeff Zimmerman: They are screwed. They need to come up with a plan to try to win

5:28
Jeff Zimmerman: Fulmer with the Save

5:31
Jeff Zimmerman: Finnegan is back in tonight. He struggled yesterday.

5:32
Jeff Zimmerman: My leagues are set for today. I’m not sure if Boston and Toronto play

5:34
WhoIsZorbist: Maybe they can invite Drake Strasburg into the clubhouse, then throw him to the curb and hope his dad retires on the spot.

5:35
Jeff Zimmerman: Devers with HR

5:35
Jeff Zimmerman: Red Sox up by 2

5:35
WhoIsZorbist: damn

5:37
Dolanz Cheap: NESN broadcast is pretty insufferable

5:37
Jeff Zimmerman: “Happiness”

5:38
Jeff Zimmerman: “That’s what the big boys do”

5:38
WhoIsZorbist: Finnegan doing his best to join Zimmerman and Avila as retiring nats.

5:38
Jeff Zimmerman: nice

5:40
Jeff Zimmerman: What is the NESN broadcast’s fascination with “Big Boys”?

5:40
99: Eck is a national treasure and I won’t hear any different

5:44
Jeff Zimmerman: Mariners and Blue Jays hope rest on Washington coming up

5:46
Jeff Zimmerman: A Save from Pivetta

5:46
WhoIsZorbist: Alright, we just need some guy and some other guy to do something, Soto gets walked, and then some other other guy triples, drives in 3. Baseball tomorrow.

5:46
Jeff Zimmerman: agree 100%

5:47
WhoIsZorbist: Today I learned Alcides Escobar didn’t retire 6 years ago. Yuliesky Bethancourt playing for the Nats too?

5:47
Big Joey: What do you think Wander Franco’s highest BA season will be? .370?

5:47
Jeff Zimmerman: Around .350

5:48
Big Joey: Are you worried about Bellinger next year, or do you think he can be .260  40   900OPS again?

5:48
Jeff Zimmerman: For sure, he needs to get healthy

5:50
daro: Bellinger will be my top sleeper

5:50
WhoIsZorbist: Nats announcer: “A reminder, the Red Sox have beaten the Yankees 10 out of 19 this year”.  ITS A BLOOD BATH!

5:51
Big Joey: I know it’s a crazy thought, but could Verlander come back and still give us a couple more years of dominance?

5:51
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes, but I’m not going to count on it

5:52
Jeff Zimmerman: Playoffs set and the fantasy baseball season is over.

5:52
WhoIsZorbist: damn. just what manfred wanted, opposite of what I wanted

5:53
Jeff Zimmerman: Sorry.

5:54
Jeff Zimmerman: That’s it for me four hours later. I’ll move my chat to Tueday

5:54
Jeff Zimmerman: I’ll see all of you Sunday degenerates next season.





Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.

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Jason BMember since 2017
3 years ago

Stupid Nats and their stupid bullpen. Rats.