Exodus 16/Numbers 11 Smackdown
More matter with less art, we hear some spoilsports telling us. We came for data; give us data. Fair enough, and here you go. The thing is, though, you never know. Sometimes you complain about the menu and you wind up with manna. Other times, you complain, and you get so much of what you’re after that, as God so trenchantly put it, “it come out of your nostrils and it be loathsome unto you.” Keep us posted as to which it is; we know you won’t be bashful about it.
We don’t have to tell you that there’s been a Second Revolution in sabermetric analysis. The first one was led by Bill James and ratified by the publication of Moneyball in 2003. The second one is going on right now, and is probably better exemplified by Fangraphs than by anything else. Take the progression in the way that people have approached BABIP. When the First Revolution began, nobody was thinking about Batting Average on Balls in Play. The fundamental insight about it—one of the things that marked the beginning of the Second Revolution–was that an abnormally high or low BABIP is hard for either a hitter or a pitcher to maintain from season to season. Expected BABIP reflects and tries to adjust for that difficulty. When, early in the Second Revolution, people started to calculate xBABIP, they just used actual BABIP to do so. Then they started factoring in the type of batted ball (line drive, ground ball, fly ball). Now, thanks to Jeff Zimmerman’s work on Fangraphs, they’re also considering whether each of those batted balls entailed soft, medium, or hard contact. In the same vein, we now know not only about balls and strikes, or first-pitch strikes, but also swinging strikes at specific pitches of specific velocities with specific vertical and horizontal movements. We have heat maps of pitched and batted balls and of zone contact, and probably heat maps of heat, reflecting temperature differences in different portions of the batter’s box.
We’d say that this Second Revolution entails two connected but distinct features. First, and more obviously, it’s more granular. The smallest unit of analysis available in the first wave was, generally, the plate appearance. No one knew where individual pitches were winding up; no one knew how hard batted balls were hit; no one knew, with precision, the consequences of having a particular count on a particular batter. That’s because no one was out there gathering these data, or at least no one was doing it who was willing to tell the public about it. That’s changed.
The second feature is that the analysis is less moored to actual on-field outcomes—the zero-sum ball-vs.-strike, on-base-vs.-out, run-vs.-no-run, and win-vs.-loss fabric of ordinary fandom. It’s thus less moored to fantasy categories and, as far as anyone knows, fantasy success. No one’s using, say, Swinging Strikes Induced on Outside Sliders Between 85 and 90 MPH as a category in a Fantasy league. It’s possible—even likely—that the new-wave stats are being used retrospectively in contract negotiations or arbitration. But for our purposes, these stats matter only if they’re predictive of the things we care about, and then only if they’re more predictive than the stats that are visible to the naked eye. And we just don’t know—yet–whether all the additional information we’ve got enables people (including you and us) who predict fantasy-relevant baseball performance to predict it better. If you’d do about the same as the Zimmermans of the Fantasy universe using, say, a weighted average of the plain-vanilla stats of a player’s last three seasons, why would you bother with something else?
So the question is, does any of the new stuff do any good? And the answer seems to be that it does. Since 2010, the estimable Wil Larson has gathered the prognostications of whichever experts are willing to go on record with their predictions, computed their accuracy, and determined for each year who did best. In 2010 there were just 6 forecasters in Larson’s sample; in 2011 there were 12; in 2014 he was up to 19. We wondered: with the explosion in stats, have these guys’ predictions collectively gotten more accurate? We wanted to compare the same forecasters over as long a period as possible so that they had a chance to incorporate the new knowledge produced by the new-wave stats into their forecast models, and we also wanted enough forecasters to provide a meaningful sample. So we chose the forecast years of 2011 and 2014 for the 10 forecasters who submitted predictions to Larson for both years for the 10 standard Rotisserie categories. (Actually, there were only 9 for hitters, because Steamer didn’t start with hitters until 2012.)
We begin by reporting how the forecasters did across the 5 hitting categories. We use Root Mean Square Error (which is a way of measuring the difference between predicted and expected outcomes) as our measure of accuracy. The lower RMSE (signifying the better forecast) for each forecaster/category is in bold. Here are the hitting forecasts:
| Forecaster | Year | Runs | HR | RBIs | BA | SB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AGG PRO | 2011 | 25.729 | 8.377 | 26.829 | 0.04 | 6.889 |
| 2014 | 22.64 | 8.23 | 23.34 | 0.024 | 6.42 | |
| Cairo | 2011 | 25.609 | 8.488 | 25.755 | 0.037 | 6.929 |
| 2014 | 21.55 | 7.87 | 22.53 | 0.025 | 6.3 | |
| CBS SPORTS | 2011 | 28.261 | 9.387 | 28.345 | 0.041 | 7.794 |
| 2014 | 26.28 | 9.94 | 26.9 | 0.027 | 7.14 | |
| ESPN | 2011 | 27.575 | 9.455 | 28.568 | 0.04 | 7.257 |
| 2014 | 25.88 | 9.88 | 27.25 | 0.028 | 7.04 | |
| Fangraphs Fans | 2011 | 30.001 | 8.918 | 32.646 | 0.041 | 7.532 |
| 2014 | 27.2 | 9.24 | 28.98 | 0.029 | 7.62 | |
| Marcel | 2011 | 22.958 | 8.108 | 24.186 | 0.039 | 7.054 |
| 2014 | 21.67 | 7.62 | 22.76 | 0.027 | 7.04 | |
| Razzball | 2011 | 26.766 | 9.331 | 28.791 | 0.041 | 7.961 |
| 2014 | 24.57 | 8.9 | 27.45 | 0.027 | 7.14 | |
| Rotochamp | 2011 | 29.162 | 9.032 | 27.048 | 0.04 | 7.746 |
| 2014 | 21.73 | 8.49 | 24.6 | 0.026 | 6.93 | |
| Wil Larson | 2011 | 24.474 | 8.066 | 25.113 | 0.042 | 6.729 |
| 2014 | 24.88 | 8.75 | 24.37 | 0.029 | 7.08 | |
| 2014 RMSE < 2011 RMSE? | YES | 8 | 5 | 9 | 9 | 7 |
| NO | 1 | 4 | 2 | |||
| Probability of RMSE Change Distribution | 3.52% | 49.22% | .4% | .4% | 14% | |
| Matched Pair T-Statistic (significance level)* | -3.70 (.006) | -.154 (.880) | -5.78 (.000) | -28.44 (.000) | -2.50 (.036) |
*Wilcoxian Signed-Ranks tests yielded similar significance levels
So: pretty much everyone’s predictions got better in pretty much every hitting category from 2011 to 2014. The exception is home runs, which is something you might actually have expected, because home runs (as opposed to “power”) in a single season are kind of random. Say you project a player to hit 25 home runs. As Ron Shandler has noted, if the guy ends up with 22 or 28 home runs, it may just be a matter of a few gusts of wind. The more numerous counting stats are less likely to be subject to randomness, and they all show significant improvement. We did what’s called a T-test—a statistical technique designed to determine whether apparently significant results might instead be random. Nine forecasters is a small sample, but the results (embodied in the bottom row; a negative t-stat indicates a smaller RMSE, and thus a better prediction, in 2014) make randomness a pretty unlikely explanation. Even the fact that offense in general was down over the four years, and thus that the category mean and mean forecast errors might be suppressed, can’t explain away the improvement.
Now for the pitching predictions, in the four standard roto categories other than saves that Wil Larson tracks. (We’re assuming it’s self-evident why he omits them.)
| Forecaster | Year | WINS | ERA | WHIP | K |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AGG PRO | 2011 | 4.67 | 1.14 | 0.17 | 44.19 |
| 2014 | 4.94 | 0.992 | 0.144 | 59.18 | |
| Cairo | 2011 | 4.29 | 1.11 | 0.16 | 45.03 |
| 2014 | 4.96 | 1.022 | 0.17 | 58.76 | |
| CBS SPORTS | 2011 | 5.19 | 1.14 | 0.17 | 46.55 |
| 2014 | 5.47 | 0.995 | 0.143 | 67.18 | |
| ESPN | 2011 | 4.78 | 1.16 | 0.17 | 43.76 |
| 2014 | 5.4 | 0.994 | 0.141 | 63.31 | |
| Fangraphs Fans | 2011 | 4.5 | 1.13 | 0.17 | 45 |
| 2014 | 5.56 | 1.005 | 0.141 | 64.09 | |
| Marcel | 2011 | 4.71 | 1.14 | 0.16 | 43.58 |
| 2014 | 4.9 | 1.003 | 0.143 | 57.93 | |
| Razzball | 2011 | 3.97 | 1.12 | 0.17 | 44.06 |
| 2014 | 5.25 | 0.99 | 0.149 | 62.89 | |
| Rotochamp | 2011 | 4.09 | 1.11 | 0.17 | 40.96 |
| 2014 | 5.04 | 0.989 | 0.145 | 64.18 | |
| Steamer | 2011 | 3.97 | 1.13 | 0.17 | 40.08 |
| 2014 | 4.94 | 1.006 | 0.15 | 57.89 | |
| Wil Larson | 2011 | 4.35 | 1.14 | 0.17 | 43.84 |
| 2014 | 4.77 | 0.992 | 0.148 | 56.62 | |
| 2014 RMSE < 2011 RMSE? | YES | 10 | 9 | ||
| NO | 10 | 1 | 10 | ||
| Probability of RMSE Change Distribution | .2% | .2% | 1.96% | .2% | |
| Matched Pair T-Statistic (significance level)* | 5.58 (.001) | -19.92 (.001) | -5.68 (.001) | 16.29 (.001) |
*Wilcoxian Signed-Ranks tests yielded similar significance levels
Hmmm. Kind of puzzling. The rate-stat predictions (ERA and WHIP) are clearly improving, but not the counting stats (Ws and Ks). Why might this be? Well, it could be that the forecasting just isn’t getting better. We considered a different explanation: that the characteristics of the pitchers chosen for Larson’s sample have changed. If the starter/reliever ratio was higher in 2014 than in 2011, the mean of wins and strikeouts, and thus the RMSE for the counting stats, would have increased, and with it the apparent error. We checked; that’s not it, either. We’re partial to the explanation offered by Fangraphs Rookie of the Year Alex Chamberlain: Projection systems aren’t designed to predict pitcher injuries, which tend to be catastrophic and can produce enormous forecasting counting-stat errors. Pitcher injuries have increased over the last few years. More injuries equals less accurate prediction. Hitter injuries have also increased, but (1) they’re generally less devastating, and (2) they’re arguably more foreseeable. Larson could test this hypothesis by converting K projections to K% or K/9—that is, by converting a counting stat to a rate stat. If he does, he finds that the rate projections improve, and the Chamberlain hypothesis thus proves correct, then Chamberlain gets the sabermetric Nobel Prize, if not canonization by the sabermetric Vatican.
So what have we told you that you didn’t know nine paragraphs ago? That we (not just Fangraphs nobility, but also us serfs) here in Fantasyland seem to be getting better at improving our forecasting ability. One way to help pin this down would be to pick, for each forecaster, a reasonably-sized sample of hitters and pitchers who have, say, at least 400 ABs or 150 IPs projected and actual in 2011, and then another same-sized sample in 2014, and see if, once injuries are corrected for, the predictions improve. If you’ve got time to do this, be our guests.
We know that we’ve been assuming something that hasn’t been proved: that the new-wave stats play a part in the improved accuracy of the predictions. We don’t know what the guys whose predictions Larson looked at were using to generate those predictions. Perhaps they were using new-wave stats to create proprietary algorithms of brain-cambering complexity; perhaps they were reading the entrails of bulls. We also realize that what is arguably the most interesting question here is one we haven’t explored: assuming the new-wave stats are helping, which one or ones are helping most? Maybe xBABIP is the way, the truth, the light, whereas xFIP is a snare and a delusion. All we know is that something is enabling these particular forecasters to improve their numbers, and that it probably has more to do with xBABIP than with bull entrails, though, to be entirely fair, unlike bull entrails xBABIP isn’t enhanced if you add to it a bit of star anise, cinnamon, and grated lemon rind.
One last thing we’re sure you’re saying to yourselves: why didn’t the Birchwood Brothers use R2 ? Those charlatans! Here, verbatim, is the explanation for this, offered by the BB who’s chiefly responsible for the present installment: “To momentarily digress, we did not look at R2 , as the logic is that the regression (Actual = a + b1*forecast + error) eliminates biases (i.e., the coefficient b1 is different than 1) in the forecasting system. Our problem here is that if we knew the ex post biases ex ante – or even had some unbiased estimate of them – we could adjust the forecasts. Wil Larson has suggested that some systems show systematic biases and hence RMSE understates their forecast value. If these systems show a systematic ex ante bias, however, one should be able to improve their forecasting (as measured by RMSE) with an unbiased estimate of coefficient b1 – perhaps by using last year’s b1 or some moving average of previous estimated b1.”
So that’s settled. Glad you asked. See you next time.
The Birchwood Brothers are two guys with the improbable surname of Smirlock. Michael, the younger brother, brings his skills as a former Professor of Economics to bear on baseball statistics. Dan, the older brother, brings his skills as a former college English professor and recently-retired lawyer to bear on his brother's delphic mutterings. They seek to delight and instruct. They tweet when the spirit moves them @birchwoodbroth2.
This is the sabermetric equivalent of Wilder Mind. Please bring back the delphic mutterings.
I think this is the first “fuck you” article I’ve seen on Fangraphs. Lead with comparing your output to manna, then tell those who asked for more data that they may get more than they bargained for and give them some comparisons of Matched Pair T-Statistics and Wilcoxian Signed-Ranks tests. Yeah, I haven’t been bashful about saying that I don’t like your articles, but I think I begrudgingly respect the attitude here, so…good job? Maybe?
Agreed. When I feel like I’m reading The New Yorker, FanGraphs edition, it’s not exactly persuasive to me. I kinda wish the author would literally say “fuck you”. It would feel less passive-aggressive.
Wait. Let me expound upon that before I’m inevitably told “fuck you”. More matter doesn’t necessarily mean more data, as the first sentence suggests. How about less intricate dialogue? I get that it’s for humor. I suppose that’s what I object to more than anything. It’s not my brand of humor.
I’m sure Kurt Vonnegut would tell me that I need to get more practice at reading above an eighth-grade level. This notion, however, is at odds with the fundamentals of persuasion; that is, you’re not going to get better at persuasion by calling the audience dumb.
Statistical tests of inference! These are the first I have seen on here. Awesome.
Interesting, but you really can’t draw much of a conclusion from this, certainly not the one you’re trying to. Marcel knows nothing about the Second Wave of Sabermetrics, yet it showed similar “improvements” (or lack thereof) across the board.
Your eloquence is far better utilized in enlightening rather than swatting away imagined foes. This reeks of two disgruntled professors trying to assert their authority. To what end?
Let me be explicit, rather than just snarky: Fangraphs in general, and Rotographs in particular needs more diverse opinions (in a Wisdon of the Crowds sense).
I appreciate what the Birchwood Brothers are trying to do and think it’s important in a larger sense, whether this particular series succeeds or fails. I love the site, but yet another article on ‘luck’ (the sabermetric version of the ‘clutch’ trope’) serves no one.
Speaking (down) on behalf of everyone is always the worst of samermetrics. Way too common here and always boring. Not one relevant idea about the article except for an attempted slagging off from on high.
This type of comment is so typical of the need to crush of “diverse opinion.”
You don’t know it when you see it, and here yours are legion.
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There is no guild of slightly porky 30 something guys who really really know baseball. Sheesh..
xo
dear slightly porky 30 something guy,
hey! I think that’s a criticism, but perhaps your english is not the best-mine isn’t either.
my comments were meant as a general criticism of the site in general, yes, but there has been an ongoing debate about the value of the Birchwood Brothers in the comments each week which I was addressing.
I find great value in their work, and though I’m not sure what you mean by ‘crush of diverse opinion’, I’ll address it as a criticism. Too wit, all too often, we as fantasy fans get a shiny new stat, and think, ah great, without really asking how useful it actually is-and I think that’s a very important question, which this site does a good job of (eventually) interrogating.
which is a long way of saying that when I say we need more ‘diverse opinions’ what I mean is we need more critical thinking.
xo,
U.S.
Great piece !
I really liked what you guys were doing before this better though.
Screw these bitch-ass commenters.
On the other hand, since less offense sorta equals less total stats, weren’t the projections of the last 4 pitching years just as likely to (appear to) firm up kinda well on their own, especially with runs scored going down annually over the era?
Okay, step back Birchwoods – the newfangled stats are not only to be judged on their abilities to help in predicting the future. Respecting this is Rotographs – there is more fun to be had with the new stats.
For me, the most beautiful thing is how FIP and BABIP attempt to capture many of the momentary elements of the game at a given moment (moment of hit or out). The are coupling Ying/Yang stats and very fun to consider their elements for each individual play.
(I usually look at Hit% rather than BAPIP as Hit% includes home runs, and I just think that’ more fair.)
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“Maybe xBABIP is the way, the truth, the light, whereas xFIP is a snare and a delusion.” – Birchwood Brothers
Yes, correct, Birchwoods! I have no idea what xBAPIP is (I can be happily in the dark here, no prob), but xFIP is not a reasonable stat.
The regularization of the HR/FB rate within xFIP is bunk. Doing so converts the cool FIP stat into something very close to the strikeout K stat – what is the point of this?
Pumping out even just a few lists of starting pitchers’ K vs. xFIP would show the strong correlation between two baseball stats.
Thank you!