Examining the Kris Bryant-Nolan Arenado Debate

With the Chicago Cubs set to wrap up the National League Central in the coming days/weeks, it’s looking more and more difficult for anyone to make a case that will topple that of Kris Bryant for the National League Most Valuable Player Award. That hasn’t stopped some from trying, and there are cases to be made for a small handful of players outside of the Chicago third sacker. One of those potential finalists could be one of Bryant’s third base counterparts, in Colorado Rockies third baseman Nolan Arenado.

Our job here isn’t necessarily to decide that debate. While it does look like Bryant is currently the frontrunner, there are numerous factors to be considered in regard to the MVP beyond the offensive numbers which we will illustrate here. There’s defense to be considered as well as versatility, WAR, etc. That’s almost another debate entirely. Here, we’re only worried about the offense. So let’s delve into some of the numbers for a pair of extraordinary National League players.

Heading into Tuesday’s slate of games, here’s how the two stacked up in a general sense:

AVG OBP OPS ISO K% BB% wRC+
Kris Bryant .305 .402 .988 .281 21.9 11.3 160
Nolan Arenado .293 .362 .939 .285 13.1 10.1 125

The general perspective would certainly seem to favor Bryant in most regards. He reaches base at a far higher rate, while notching an OPS that comes in almost 50 points higher than Arenado. In regard to ISO, the two are tied in home runs, while Bryant leads in doubles. It’s Arenado’s four triples that give him an edge there. But even the higher K rate for Bryant doesn’t make this a win for Arenado, considering everywhere else on the board that Sparkle Eyes has an edge. At the same time, we’re comparing two elite players here. The numbers are going to look great anyway you slice it. While we could certainly make a judgment about which is more valuable based off of this information alone, let’s dig just a bit deeper. Spoiler alert: we’re going to the splits.

Home/road splits tend to always be Arenado’s undoing. Playing at Coors Field is both a blessing and a curse in that regard. While nobody is questioning his offensive potency overall, it’s hard to ignore the disparity in production between his home and road splits:

AVG OBP OPS ISO K% BB% wRC+
Arenado (Home) .317 .390 1.052 .346 11.2 11.2 136
Arenado (Away) .270 .336 .832 .227 14.9 9.0 115

At Coors, Arenado is predictably off the charts. His ISO is, to use a technical term, stupid when he’s playing in the confines of his home ballpark. But there isn’t a statistic here that doesn’t experience significant decline when he steps out of Denver. In most respects, the road numbers are still impressive, but not so much that they don’t still take away from the total body of work. Hooray for double negatives.

Conversely, Bryant has posted more impressive numbers on the road than at the Friendly Confines:

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AVG OBP OPS ISO K% BB% wRC+
Bryant (Home) .276 .375 .910 .259 24.5 9.7 142
Bryant (Away) .332 .425 1.058 .301 19.6 12.7 176

The favorable road split is something I touched on earlier this season, and it’s a trend that hasn’t exactly dissipated as the season has worn on. Even with that more impressive road split in mind, it’s hard not to look at that home line and still be overwhelmingly impressed. While there’s a clear decline, he still maintains a higher level in almost every single respect above Arenado, strikeout rate notwithstanding. So to this point, the general overview and the splits both seem to favor Bryant.

To some degree, consistency should be taken into account, illustrated below with Arenado’s wRC+ throughout the season, followed by Bryant’s:

ArenadowRC

And Bryant…

BryantwRC

Obviously, with the scope of each graph, there’s going to be the appearance of a great deal of fluctuation. And it’s hard to put too much stock into the day-to-day happenings of the wRC+ world. At the same time, this does provide a nice visual when considering each player’s total offensive value in a more intricate sense. Just as the splits did, this would also appear to favor Kris Bryant, as the actual variation in his wRC+ is not nearly as significant. Perhaps more importantly, Bryant has managed to exclusively stay at or above that 100 mark since the very beginning of the season, something Arenado has not accomplished.

If we were going to take this debate out of the fantasy arena and put it on the MVP plane, then we’re bringing in other factors. Defensively, the edge would probably go to Arenado. But you also have to take defensive versatility into account, as Bryant moves around the diamond and is still an above average defender wherever he is. Sparkles in the eyes? Game: Bryant. It’s a really fascinating debate, and one that will likely continue as the regular season winds down. But for our purpose here of examining that offensive value, and thus assessing their fantasy relevance in a very general sense, the edge has to go to the Chicago Cubs superstar.

And obviously none of this is meant to disparage Nolan Arenado. He’s a supremely talented offensive player and one of Major League Baseball’s elite. But when we’re talking offense and offensive value, there is not a shred of doubt in my mind that the edge, in almost every single respect, goes to Kris Bryant.





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Curious Gorge
10 years ago

but clutch…

jdbolickMember since 2016
10 years ago

Bryant has a massive advantage in base-running value.

Vic Romano
10 years ago

Arenado will always be behind until he finds a teammate to make a combo nickname that’s better than Bryzzo….which means he will always be behind.

stuck in a slump
10 years ago
Reply to  Vic Romano

Cargonado, seems like it should work…

jdbolickMember since 2016
10 years ago

Imagine if Jeff Samardzija had signed with Colorado. San Francisco would have needed Ian Ziering and Tara Reid to counter that.

Vic Romano
10 years ago

“Cargo” is itself already a nickname, so it can’t be used in the creation of another nickname. Have you not read the rules?

davels
10 years ago
Reply to  Vic Romano

Gonzanado?

davels
10 years ago
Reply to  Vic Romano

Arenalez?

Cybo
10 years ago

Dahlnado

bunslow
10 years ago

Note that in 2015, Bryant’s home-road splits were the exact opposite — he was much “better” at Wrigley than on the road. So I’m inclined to think that both splits are just noise.

BritishCub
10 years ago

I know you say Arenado has the defensive advantage and in true talent i don’t doubt that but weirdly enough, this year Bryant has the better fielding numbers (8.0 to 7.8 def) the def scores themselves are only close are Bryant carries a negative positional adjustment thanks to his time in left and at 1st while Arenado is positive. Also on the clutch front Kris has moved to 6th worst rather than 2nd (baby steps) and Arenado has negative clutch too(like most good hitters given that clutch using your own performance as a baseline good hitters against top relievers generally worse than good hitters against middle relief bad starters etc that you see in low leverage). Personally, not withstanding Arenado’s huge RBI total and joint league leading HR total i feel the gap in performance has been large though the gap in talent may not be.

HoratioSky
10 years ago

For fantasy, I’ll take Arenado and his low strikeouts. He is 4 years in rather than 2 at almost the same age. His low .OBP is cancelled out by his elite strikeout rate. More balls in play means the opportunity for more 2B, 3B, and 1B as well. (Bryant’s high on base will likely give him more runs.) His average will likely be higher for his career because of his K%.

Arenado gives you the edge in more categories save for the old 5×5 1980’s versions of fantasy baseball.

dl80Member since 2020
10 years ago

Even though I love Arenado, there is no question Bryant has been better, even without accounting for Coors. However, I think there is a legitimate question of who will be better going forward.

Bryant’s offense is propped up by an absurd .362 career BABIP. Given that their IFFB and GB rates this year are nearly identical, Bryant’s 5 extra infield hits isn’t enough to account for an 80-point difference in BABIP.

I happen to think Bryant’s BABIP will come way down (perhaps to .310 or .315), and I think Arenado’s has a little room to increase. If their BABIP is within 10-15 points of each other, Bryant’s offensive advantage is more than gone, especially when you realize his Ks hurt him vs. Areando.

That’s not to say Bryant won’t improve (cutting down the Ks would be a big benefit) or that we can ignore the Coors effect. But I think Arenado isn’t as far behind as it appears at first.

innernette_guy
10 years ago

You should overlay the graphs not only to make the differences more apparent, but also to prevent different scales being used. The y axis is different on the two graphs, and it looks like Bryant would look a bit better if the graphs were shown together on the same scale.