Cubs Playing Time Battles: Hitters
We’ve started our annual Depth Chart Discussions, re-branded as Playing Time Battles for 2016. You can catch up on every team we’ve covered in the Playing Time Battles Summary post or following along using the Depth Chart Discussions tag.
This time yesterday, there really weren’t any Cubs playing time battles to discuss. There’s always the token catcher chat, and we’ll flesh that out below. Some words could have been spilled regarding utility men Chris Coghlan and Javier Baez. Overall, it wouldn’t have been an exciting post. With Dexter Fowler’s stunning agreement, there is a real battle to address.
Outfield
The Cubs now have four starting quality outfields – plus Baez, Arismendy Alcantera, and Matt Szczur – for three jobs. Jason Heyward will play just about every day he’s healthy. We should expect Fowler to play frequently too, leaving Jorge Soler and Kyle Schwarber fighting over left field.
Theo Epstein had some comments that should help us here. He said Heyward would spend more time in right field now. The key word is “more.” When Fowler isn’t in the lineup, Heyward probably slides to center – unless Baez is in the lineup. By allowing that Heyward will still play some center field, Epstein is hinting that Fowler may not be a 150 game starter. I’d still bet on him reaching 135 games.
For those of you assuming Epstein will now trade Soler for pitching, he says he won’t. GM’s often lie or misdirect, and you can be sure teams have called about Soler since the Fowler signing was announced. You can never say never when it comes to trading an extraneous asset. But I saw the sound bite, Epstein was quite convincing about his desire to hang onto this deep outfield.
That means Soler and Schwarber take a big downgrade in value. It doesn’t sound as though a stint in the minors is in the cards for either player, but it can’t be ruled out – especially for Schwarber. Based on the way last season ended, I’d bet on Schwarber starting against most righties with Soler taking the lefties. The club now has more reason to use Schwarber behind the plate in an effort to get his bat into the lineup.
Fantasy owners can prepare to howl. It doesn’t seem like either player will start more than 75 percent of the time. We’ll probably see even less of them since Baez will get his share of reps too in a super utility role. If injuries crop up, Ben Zobrist may also slide into the outfield with Baez starting at second base.
Top of the Lineup
The best leadoff hitters reach base at a high clip, and they have a little bit of speed too. Chicago now has signed three players who fit this profile over the winter. Fowler, Heyward, and Zobrist all have some pop too. Their career OBPs are .363, .353, and .355 respectively. However, Fowler had the lowest of the trio in 2015, and he’s generally regarded as the least valuable hitter of the trio.
On a normal roster, you could just bat them first through third in any order you desire. Two are switch-hitters while Heyward bats lefty. On the Cubs, Anthony Rizzo and Kris Bryant need to be near the top too. While on the subject of OBP, Rizzo has a career .356 rate with a .387 OBP over the last two seasons. Bryant debuted with a .369 OBP. These guys are reaching base even more than the table setters. Schwarber did well too with a .355 OBP.
We can probably safely assume that two of Fowler, Heyward, and Zobrist will bat ahead of Rizzo and Bryant. Since Joe Maddon is managing the team, don’t count on there being a set top of the order until sometime in May. Any OBP threat batting at the top of this lineup should easily eclipse 100 runs. Anyone batting further down in the order could pile up strong RBI totals. I’d expect to see more station-to-station ball. You don’t want to make outs on the base paths with this lineup.
I’m confident Heyward will probably bat first or second. He’s being paid to do it. Fowler and Zobrist seem to have even odds to grab the other job. There’s also a chance Heyward could bat fifth in a run producing role. The more I look at it, the less certain I become.
Catcher
The Cubs don’t have your typical catcher platoon with a decent starter and scrubby Sunday guy. Miguel Montero is a solid backstop who will start against most righties. Unfortunately, the Fowler signing may devalue Montero. He was a sneaky good veteran sleeper in my eyes.
With fewer outfield opportunities, I now foresee Schwarber taking maybe 15 percent of the starts versus righties. It’s possible this is where Schwarber will get his work with facing lefties, or maybe they just divvy everything up by pitcher. In any event, I’m pretty sure Schwarber will catch more than he was going to just a day ago. The good news for keeper owners – he should get his 20 games for eligibility in all formats.
David Ross used to be an excellent platoon bat, but those days are behind him. He’s the veteran mentor of a young team. I wouldn’t count on seeing him very often. He was Jon Lester’s personal catcher last season. They may want to shake Lester of that crutch. Waiting in the wings is the catcher of the future – Willson Contreras. He’ll only see action if Montero hits the disabled list.
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Fowler’s signing is unquestionably bad news for Soler, but it’s probably not as bad as it would initially seem. Fowler has missed an average of thirty games per season over his career, so it’s incredibly unlikely that he will repeat last season’s playing time. He’s also not very good against right-handed pitching, therefore it would make sense to use Schwarber-Heyward-Soler as much against RHPs as is defensibly tolerable. I agree that Fowler is still going to play the majority of the time against RHPs, but I do expect him to sit against them more often.
i’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
how the hell can anyone justify sitting Schwarber, at all, ever? I don’t get it.
Ok, sure, he didn’t hit lefties last year, but that doesn’t mean he can’t do it at all, and certainly doesn’t mean you don’t attempt to find out. Sometimes, you’re pleasantly surprised. (just ask Lucas Duda and the Mets)
And, now we’re suggesting that Schwarber goes DOWN TO THE MINORS? Good lord, what the WHAT?
Why are we ignoring the fact that the dude hit 16 homers in 69 games last year? He’s the best young power bat in the entire league, and could easily be the best power bat, period, in the next two or three years.
We’re sending that to the minors for Dexter Fowler’s average-at-best defense? I just don’t get it.
We don’t have to ignore anything. He might go to the minors if the club thinks every day reps are better for him than part time work. I agree he needs to be in the lineup against lefties. An even better example than Duda – Chase Utley – was said to be a platoon guy then patently wasn’t.
However, regardless of Schwarber’s skills, this roster isn’t actually that much worse with him waiting in the minors. This is a credit to Epstein’s roster building. Redundancy is necessary over the 162 game season. Even if Schwarber hits the minors, I would expect it to be extremely temporary.
but I feel like the entire point is your last paragraph.
the fact that the roster is so good should leave room for you to take a guy who could be a stud and play him every day to know what you have.
You already know what Dexter Fowler is, and that’s a relatively average player who gets most of his value from the position he plays.
I get why you do it if your the Cubs, sign Fowler, that is, but I don’t get why everyone automatically assumes the guys going to see all this playing time ahead of the kids.
LOL @ best young power bat in the league. I think its a little early for that. Youre forgetting a lot of good hitters, namely Trout and Harper, but also Bryant, Machado, Arenado who are all under 25 and have more legitimate resumes.
I was going to let that go because he said “could.” It’s not impossible, just improbable.
First off, Schwarber is younger than all of those guys, even Harper. I’m not saying Schwarber is anywhere near the hitter Harper/Trout are RIGHT NOW, and I’m not even saying that he’s ever going to be as complete a hitter as they are.
Secondly, the entire point of my post was to discuss the fact that people are suggesting platooning a guy who could pretty easily be on the level with, or surpass, the best young power hitters in the game.
As an aside: Bryant? Why? Because he got to play more games last year? Schwarber hit 61% of the homers Bryant did last year, in 42% of the plate appearances Bryant got. Regarding Machado, Arenado, etc, maybe we just have very different definitions for the term “legitimate resumes.” I don’t think there’s a massive difference between what’s basically one season of production, and Schwarber’s half-season.
These are all nearly identical players at the dish, but no one’s suggesting that Arenado get platooned, despite his wRC+ of 79 against lefties.
As a thought experiment, bear with me:
if you scratch out 2014 for Harper because he was hurt, and look at 2013, which was his 21 year old season, and also his first full season, Harper hit 20 homers and slashed .274/.368/.486.
This year, Steamer projects Schwarber to hit 25 dingers and slash .261/.345/.474.
I have a hard time looking at those two lines and calling them anything other than “fairly similar.”
Why is it so impossible to believe that Schwarber, like a few of these other guys, can turn a corner and become one of the best power bats in the game?
Let’s assume that LF/CF/RF all get 700 PAs over the course of the season. Barring injuries (and not including the handful of DH PAs available to NL teams), that’s 2,100 PAs to split among four dudes…
Fowler – 600
Heyward – 600
Schwarber – 500
Soler – 400
Fowler & Heyward get a couple days off, and Schwarber gets more PAs than Soler as the long end of the platoon advantage.
In regards to Schwarber:
1. His defense will probably get him out of the line-up some. This might mean a late inning replacement, but that will cost him some PA’s.
2. It’s a small sample size, but he had a .481 OPS vs LHP last year and struck out 44.3% of the time. That’s in 61 PA’s, but it’s not that rare for a young player–power hitter at that–to have trouble hitting the same-sided pitcher.
and here’s his minor league splits v lefties:
Teat AB H HR SO AVE OBP SLG
DAY 49 13 4 13 0.265 0.368 0.531
BOI 5 2 0 1 0.400 0.500 0.400
KC 25 10 1 6 0.400 0.464 0.680
TNS 43 11 2 18 0.256 0.373 0.465
IOW 29 11 2 11 0.379 0.419 0.759
puzzling move with soler showing so much promise last post-season. doesn’t this stunt his development?
despite what Theo says, when the Cubs need pitching help in July, he’s gonna move Soler.
that’s my feeling, at least.
Ross will catch. Schwarber likely not. Maddon loves what Ross can do.
I know Ross is a great guy, but it seems like they would be much better off just letting schwarber catch a bit more and use his roster spot on, well, anyone else