Alfredo Simon Will Be Better than You Think
I’m the type of guy who likes a good challenge. At least, I must be. Why else would I volunteer myself to write about a 33-year-old reliever who made the transition to the rotation, pitched to a 3.44 earned run average in 32 starts, and then got traded?
Let’s begin by just reflecting on how remarkable Alfredo Simon’s 2014 was. He came into the season more than two years removed from his last start, having spent all of 2012 and 2013 pitching out of the bullpen. Not only had he not started in quite some time, but he was never any good at all as a starter in the first place.
When I say he was never any good at all as a starter, I absolutely mean it. His only significant sample as a major-league starter came in his 16 starts in 2011 as a member of the Orioles. That year, Simon compiled the following uninspiring numbers:
- 2011 (as starter, 94.1 IP) – 4.96 ERA, 6.30 K/9, 3.15 BB/9, 1.24 HR/9, .303/.353/.542 opponents’ slash
While that home-run rate is already high enough on its own, Simon gave up a ridiculous number of extra-base hits in general as a starter that year. In addition to the 13 homers, he gave up 31 doubles and three triples as a starter. In other words, he gave up a whopping 47 extra-base hits in 94.1 innings — I think we can all do the math on that one. Going back a bit further to Triple-A — where he made 47 starts in 52 appearances — he threw nearly 275 innings with a 5.10 ERA.
When Mat Latos went down at the start of the year, Simon stepped in to make what everyone thought was a spot start. That start was good enough to earn him another one, and 30 more after that. When the dust settled, his 2014 stat line is almost unthinkable considering that he was 33 years old, and hadn’t been an effective starter since High-A ball, a full decade prior.
- 2014 (196.1 IP) – 3.44 ERA, 5.82 K/9, 2.57 BB/9, 1.01 HR/9, .245/.307/.383 opponents’ slash
Simon’s critics have plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons to not buy into the numbers shown above. In fact, Steamer thinks he’ll be downright bad in 2015:
- 2015 (Steamer) – 4.89 ERA, 5.31 K/9, 2.95 BB/9, 1.16 HR/9
The main reason for this bearish projection likely stems from the 4.33 FIP that accompanied his 3.44 ERA in 2014. Simon benefited from a 77.5% strand rate — which Steamer projects will drop to 67.4% — and a .265 batting average on balls in play — which Steamer projects will rise to .294.
I don’t think Steamer’s BABIP projection is too terribly high. Even though Simon has generated plenty of weak contact in the last couple of years, .294 isn’t far off from his career .282 mark. I do, however, have an issue with the strand-rate projections. Ever since joining the Reds in 2012, Simon has been consistently elite at leaving runners on base, especially for a pitcher with such a low strikeout rate.
Over the last three years, Simon has stranded 78.1% of all baserunners — a rate which has not dipped below 77.5% or risen above 78.7%. I think it’s fair to say that Simon is particularly skilled in this area, and expecting him to just completely lose this ability (especially to the point where he’d be worse than league-average, as Steamer suggests) is a bit irrational.
As for the homers, I’m sure the Steamer projection was done before the trade to Detroit. In moving from Great American Ball Park to Comerica Park, Simon moves to a significantly less homer-friendly environment — according to our Park Factors, Cincinnati was the second-most homer-prone ballpark in the league last year, behind only Coors Field (and not by much). The switch in parks should limit his homers enough to effectively cancel out the effect of switching leagues.
The other big argument I’ve heard in favor of the regression monster devouring Simon whole is the fact that he pitched so poorly down the stretch:
- Pre-All Star (18 starts) – 2.70 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 5.79 K/9, 2.16 BB/9
- Post-All Star (14 starts) – 4.52 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 5.87 K/9, 3.16 BB/9
It’s a fair point, but I haven’t heard anyone bring up the fact that he very well may have simply been worn out. Simon pitched 148.2 innings in 2012 and 2013 combined; it would be a bit ridiculous to assume there wouldn’t be some serious fatigue-based noise in his 2014 data, seeing as he hurled nearly 200 frames.
For Tigers fans, I can understand the frustration with this deal. In giving up Jonathon Crawford and Eugenio Suarez, Detroit gave up quite a bit for one year of Alfredo Simon. Still, let’s not overstate who those guys are. Crawford is a good — but not great — pitcher, and Suarez’s ceiling is likely that of a super-utility type. Guys like that are nice to have, but I highly doubt Tigers fans are going to be kicking themselves five years from now, desperately wishing they never would have traded perennial All-Star Eugenio Suarez.
For fantasy purposes, Simon ended 2014 as a top-45 fantasy starting pitcher, but I have a funny feeling he’ll go undrafted entirely in more than a few mixed leagues next year. Don’t be scared away. Even with a low strikeout rate, I think he’ll hold plenty enough value to be worth a roster spot in most mixed leagues.
Scott Strandberg started writing for Rotographs in 2013. He works in small business consultation, and he also writes A&E columns for The Norman Transcript newspaper. Scott lives in Seattle, WA.
Yeah, no. I am one of those Tigers fans, and I hate the fact they have traded away Porcello, who will be better than Simon for sure. Sorry, gotta disagree with you on this one. Losing Porcello pisses me off because we got jack for him. This is 1987 Smoltz for Doyle Alexander all over again
I’m not a big fan of the moves either, but I’m not sure how Yoenis Cespedes counts as “jack” as a return for Porcello.
Let me put it to you this way – Detroit had one of the top 5 or 6 offenses last year, we don’t need more hitting, we need more quality pitching, and with Verlander and his Velocity a big question mark, Scherzer probably gone, and we gave away Doug Fister last year and our bullpen sucks, why do we keep going for hitting and dumping pitching?
They had one of the top 5 or 6 offenses last year with Torii Hunter. He’s gone now. Unless you want a Davis-Gose-Martinez outfield, I don’t see how you can not make a move to get a quality hitter. Plus, Cespedes is far superior to Hunter on defense these days. Having good defenders at C, 2B, SS, LF, and CF will be a help to the pitching staff.
The Tigers traded minor league Smoltz for a nice 3 month run by Doyle Alexander. With Porcello, they traded 1 season of Porcello as he’s a FA next offseason as well as whatever compensation draft pick they could’ve gotten.
Not quite the same
I’m so sick of hearing about the Smoltz trade. If the Tigers never made that trade they wouldn’t have made the postseason in 1987, so the trade accomplished exactly what they wanted. Plus, who’s to say Smoltz would’ve even had the same success in Detroit? Atlanta and their system was churning starting pitchers out left and right, maybe they were the ones that helped transform Smoltz. And finally, even if the Tigers never traded Smoltz and kept him under club control it wouldn’t have made a difference, those early to mid 90s Tigers teams were terrible, 1 SP wasn’t going to make them good. He would’ve just been a waste, like Greinke on those bad Royals teams.
I think you may be confusing Simon’s skill at stranding runners with the Reds defense.
Only problem I see here is, though you’ve accounted for park factor and league switch, you haven’t accounted for defense.
Cincy was a good defensive team last year, BP had them 3rd I think.
Detroit was one of the worst.
Defensively, I don’t think it’s remotely fair to compare the 2014 Tigers to the 2015 Tigers.
At short, it appears they’ll get a full season of a healthy Jose Iglesias, instead of that Romine/Suarez platoon. In center, Anthony Gose is a massive defensive upgrade over Austin Jackson (and the Rajai Davis/Ezequiel Carrera platoon they used after trading Jackson). Finally, Cespedes is so much better in the field than the reanimated corpse of Torii Hunter that I can’t even come up with strong enough superlatives to describe it.
The 2015 Tigers have *huge* upgrades over the 2014 Tigers at three positions. Two of those upgrades were made at SS and CF. This is an infinitely better defensive team we’re looking at here.
Yeah I really only see 1 sub par defender on the 2015 Tigers and that’s Castellanos. Iglesias, Kinsler and Gose are probably in the top 5 in all of baseball in terms of “Up the middle defense”, Miguel Cabrera was one of the better defenders at 1B last year and Cespedes and JD Martinez are at the very least average at the corner outfield spots. ANd for what it’s worth Avila was the 3rd highest rated catcher defensively last year. So yeah with the exception of Castellanos at 3B the 2015 Tigers should be excellent defensively.
That’s a fair analysis, I may be overstating it. We still need to account for a dropoff, no?
Even with Detroit vastly improved from last year, they are likely still not nearly as good as 2014 Cincy, who were a elite/near-elite defensive team. (3 GG finalists, 1st in runs saved, 1st in fielding % etc).
Maybe Alfredo wasn’t “worn out”‘ but rather “stressed out” given the rape charges he now faces (not a pretty scene). This on the back of an involuntary manslaughter charge he was able to beat because it was determined it wasn’t a shot fired from his gun that killed the victim. This dude has a lot on his plate! Pitching might be a distraction for him.
And then all of this could just be a mute point as the Tigers could look to use Simon in a multi-inning reliever role as Kansas City did with Herrara. I’m not sure that this decision is even finalized in-house but I would imagine that the lure of Simon had some contingency on his ability to perform in both roles. If the asking price on Max becomes more reasonable or another pitcher on the market becomes attainable then it would not surprise me to see Simon, Soria, Nathan as a comp to Herrara, Davis, Holland.
As a Tiger fan, I’m not too worried about Simon. I think he’ll at the very least be a replacement level starter for the first few months of 2015 (which is more assuring than the complete crapshoot trusting someone on the farm is). In my opinion this move sets us up perfectly to acquire another really good starting pitcher, like we did with Price last year, and move Simon to the bullpen, where he will no doubt be an effective reliever.
There are just too many SPs that are set to be FAs after 2015 for us to not acquire another better-than-average SP at the deadline. One of those teams is gonna be out-of-contention by that point and will be looking to deal.
if the deadline is anything like last year, expect alot of buyers and not alot of sellers. the added wildcard makes most times reluctant to sell players
Most unfortunately, the “uninspiring” pitching line from 2011 that was noted…:
2011 (as starter, 94.1 IP) – 4.96 ERA, 6.30 K/9, 3.15 BB/9, 1.24 HR/9, .303/.353/.542 opponents’ slash
…looks disturbingly like his second half line from 2014:
2014 (79.2 IP) – 4.52 ERA, 5.87 K/9, 3.16 BB/9, 0.90 HR/9, .275/.346/.417 opponents’ slash
In some respects, this second line is actually worse than 2011, with the lower OPS against and lower HR/9 producing a similarly high ERA, plus the lower K/9. But either way, Simon’s first half was fueled primarily by:
1. an April with an extremely low BABIP and high Strand Rate (both of which are “luck-based” stats that are very little due to Simon’s efforts).
2. a serious case of good control that Simon suffered from in June (1.33 BB/9), which he quickly recovered from (3.16 in 2nd half, 2.95 BB/9 career mark)
I very much hoped he turned it around last year as well, but the above numbers, coupled with the fact that Simon has always been a GB pitcher and has actually pitched to a league-average HR/FB rate for the last 4 years (10.1 HR/FB for 2011-2014), suggests that the move to Detroit will not be significant. Detroit is in trouble if Simon is starting more than he’s relieving in 2015.
What happened to the magical LOB ability he supposedly gained with no explanation given? It’s almost like he got lucky for 300 innings or so but of course that’s far less common than career relievers in their early 30s suddenly discovering a strand ability which everyone knows is a common occurence
Another fine entryin the classic series “Rotographs writers prove they are worse at projecting than Steamer”.