Addition by Subtraction: Fixing Dylan Bundy Long-Term
Some good pitchers, despite being good pitchers, throw bad pitches. And there are bad pitchers, too, who throw good pitches. Both are true, and one could make an argument a Venn Diagram of the two groups may overlap significantly, and that overlapping area is the group of pitchers toeing the line between breaking out and being unusable for fantasy purposes.
It stands to reason, then, that good and bad pitchers could benefit from easing off or completely abandoning their bad pitches. It’s one thing to evaluate a pitch based on its underlying metrics — its swinging strike rate (SwStr%), its ground ball rate (GB%), its velocity, and so on. It’s another thing to evaluate the pitch objectively by looking at its weighted on-base average (wOBA) allowed, which, I hope, in an adequately large sample, can indicate a pitch’s quality regardless of its peripherals. In theory, the larger the sample size, the greater the probability a pitch’s outcomes will converge with its inputs, such that the caveat “regardless of its peripherals” doesn’t actually mean anything. Given enough pitches thrown, the aforementioned underlying metrics will adequately inform the wOBA allowed.
Using PITCHf/x data from the last two years, I looked for (1) good pitchers who throws pitches that allow (2a) extremely bad wOBAs with (2b) unusually low BABIPs. Incurring high wOBAs on low BABIPs is less than ideal; if BABIP is subject to high variance and generally converges on the league average, then a bad pitch being “lucky” by BABIP suggests things will only get worse.
This post was going to be about several pitchers, each with their own problematic pitches, but I became too passionate about this single case. This is about Dylan Bundy, his abhorrently bad four-seamer, his fantastic slider, and how much his pitch selection is suffocating his potential. Ultimately, it’s about adding by subtracting.
To be clear, Bundy is not actually broken. Everyone has bad days at the office — it’s just that his was extraordinarily bad especially in light of how effective he had been for five weeks prior. In fact, I wrote about Bundy’s success just a couple of weeks ago, but it was prior to the Royals taking him behind the woodshed in one of Major League Baseball’s worst starts ever. The timing is serendipitous: three of the four home runs Bundy allowed came off his four-seamer. We’ve reached a breaking point.
Bundy’s four-seamer sucks. Among pitches thrown at least 2,000 times (by good or near-good pitchers) since the start of the 2016 season, his fastball might be the worst (or maybe 2nd-worst, behind only Chris Archer’s four-seamer). It allowed a 136 wRC+, roughly, during that span. Take your pick: for two years, on more than half his total pitches thrown, Bundy’s four-seamer turned his opposition into Charlie Blackmon, Justin Turner, Carlos Correa, Jose Ramirez, Edwin Encarnacion, et al. Thrown 2,540 times since the start of 2016, it’s equivalent to 25-plus starts’ worth of fastballs thrown to lineups comprised entirely of elite hitters. It’s hard to imagine a positive full-season outcome that has such a vulnerable half-season embedded in it.
Credit where it’s due: Bundy’s fastball usage is trending in the right direction this season, although he still hasn’t taken the correction far enough. Meanwhile, the slider he introduced last year, which I’ve mentioned before, allowed an anemic 40 wRC+ in 2017 thanks to one of the most lethal single-pitch whiff rates in baseball (25.2%). Few pitchers can boast about throwing one of baseball’s best pitches as well as one of baseball’s worst.
At first glance, it seems the slider has only grown more effective, incurring a 33.7% whiff rate. It’ll likely regress — a 175-pitch sample is not large enough to conclude conclusively the signal is anything but noise — but a pitch that allows a 22(!!!) wRC+ across eight starts cannot be ignored. Yet Bundy still throws it only one-fourth of the time. He needs to tip the scales in favor of his slider. As aforementioned, his reliance upon his four-seamer is dwindling, but only because he reintroduced his sinker (YO, EVERYONE: PLEASE STOP THROWING SINKERS), not because he’s throwing his slider more.
It’s hard to anticipate any scenario in which Bundy gets worse by featuring his slider more prominently. Patrick Corbin ramped up his electric slider usage from 33% in April 2017 to 43% in September 2017. It’s no surprise he dominated the second half of 2017 (3.26 ERA in 88.1 innings post-All-Star Break) and carried that success into what has been, to date, a full-blown breakout. Bundy’s slider, believe it or not, was better than Corbin’s prior to this season. So far this year, Bundy’s slider barely trails Corbin’s in terms of effectiveness (22 wRC+ and 6 wRC+, respectively), and Bundy’s has a better whiff rate (33.7% to 30.2%).
This, a Corbin-esque breakout, is attainable. Bundy just needs to lean into it.
It’s easy to say things will be OK for Bundy, mostly because it’s true. He’s rocking an enormous 15.0% whiff rate, and his 3.68 SIERA suggests that not only a substantial correction looms but also the pitcher who just entered baseball’s history books for all the wrong reasons is still very, very capable. It would also be irresponsible of me to not acknowledge that the effectiveness of a pitcher’s arsenal is a function of how effectively its individual parts interact with one another. I can’t say definitively that Bundy’s slider would still be as effective if he didn’t still throw his terrible fastball half the time. Maybe that’s half the reason his slider looks so good! Who knows.
However, it also stands to reason that even if Bundy’s slider became less effective from throwing it more, the marginal losses suffered in bulk would still substantially improve upon the massive losses continually incurred by his four-seamer. All else equal in 2017, shifting about 18% of his pitches from his four-seamer to his slider (such that he would have thrown his slider 40% of the time, à la Corbin) would have improved his wOBA allowed last year by about 28 points — the equivalent of 0.7 runs knocked off his ERA.* Alas, all else is not truly equal. But given his slider looks better and his fastball looks worse in the early going this year, a similar adjustment to his current pitch mix would cultivate changes in expected wOBA and ERA even more dramatic than those in 2017, at least at this point in time.
* Multiple regression, 379 observations (qualified starters, 2013-17), year fixed effects, r2 = 0.79. Roughly, +0.001 wOBA = +0.025 ERA.
So, I’m keeping my eye on Bundy. I have to. If someone in your league made a knee-jerk reaction and dropped Bundy, capitalize on his or her mistake. It’s worth noting Bundy’s not a true-talent 15%-whiff rate guy. And it’s worth reminding you about his extreme fly ball tilt that leaves him perpetually vulnerable to the long ball. But a Corbin-esque paradigm shift — one that happens mid-season — is still in play. The option is on the table, whether Bundy realizes it or not, and I’ll eagerly anticipate his embrace of it.
This is great and I love it. Thanks
Why doesn’t he just try throwing a two-seamer for some horizontal and lateral movement? I remember articles about him ditching a cutter.
OTOH there’s this. Re: Corbin
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-diamondbacks-could-have-a-patrick-corbin-problem/
I guess breaking-ball usage comes with its requisite dangers. In the absence of conclusive, universally validated evidence, it’s hard to do much with this news other than point to it as an anecdotal cautionary tale. There are other guys, healthy and ragged, throwing tons of junk as it is… *shrug*
His or her league? Classic Chamberlain.
Yes! Someone tell Bundy. I thought the same thing when he was being rocked by the Rays 3 starts ago, almost exclusively on his fastball.
Mikolas’ sinker has been more effective this year than his four-seamer has this year. So he’s an exception
Yeah, I hyperbolized a little bit — there are a few exceptions to the rule (Keuchel’s sinker, for example). But, generally speaking, 98% of sinkers are objectively bad.
This is a guy with a long and terrible history of arm injuries and you’re saying he should throw more sliders. It’s like almost a miracle he’s pitching this year at all. If anything he should focus on making his four seamer work better. It certainly has the movement to make some swinging strikes happen, and it’s not like it’s dead slow even though he’s lost a bit of heat. There’s probably nothing about the actual pitch itself that sucks. It’s probably his usage of it. I don’t think he’s throwing nearly high enough for the rise on it to be effective.
This is a fair criticism. I don’t know if his history of arm injuries is “long and terrible” — I’m aware of TJS, but I’m not familiar with other arm injuries that kept him out (it was back issues in 2015 that sidelined him). I’m also not completely convinced the TJS didn’t come from him being a power pitcher.
As far as I’m concerned, if you can’t use a good pitch correctly, such that its outcomes suck, then the pitch sucks, period. He has thrown it thousands of times with an abnormally high rate of failure. If his pitching style (location, sequencing) doesn’t mesh with the physical characteristics of his fastball, then he shouldn’t throw it. If he is simply unable to unlock the potential of his “good” fastball, he shouldn’t throw it.
If his pitching coaches were concerned about the structural integrity of his elbow as it relates to breaking ball usage, they probably wouldn’t have him throwing 25% sliders in the first place.
“This is a fair criticism. I don’t know if his history of arm injuries is “long and terrible” — I’m aware of TJS, but I’m not familiar with other arm injuries that kept him out (it was back issues in 2015 that sidelined him). I’m also not completely convinced the TJS didn’t come from him being a power pitcher.”
‘The issue, of course, was injury. Tommy John surgery was only part of it. Bundy has dealt with lat strains, shoulder calcification issues and between-start bouts of elbow soreness that have put him on disabled lists so often since he was drafted that he only has 241 1/3 innings in the majors and minors combined in the last five years.’
It took me all of five seconds to find this in an ESPN article. Granted, the source makes me skeptical of its accuracy, but this is the super special insider account article, so it must be true right?
Also here’s the rotowire blurb on 2015: “He was shut down in May with the shoulder issue, then began a fall throwing program and appeared in two Arizona Fall League games before having to be shut down with a strain in his forearm. ”
Doesn’t sound like a back problem?
But yea, I don’t really care what caused his arm problems to begin with, but more with the fact that he’s had them at all. He’s had lots of both hard and soft tissue injuries. His elbow bothered him over and over again between 2012 and 2016 even after the big ol TJ. I don’t care for him throwing 40% sliders, and neither should you really. To point at an example, Patrick Corbin was throwing 87 by the end of last start. I could really go on about breaking balls and injuries and the way the league is trending, but I don’t particularly care to. That’s pretty well-documented even if it’s generally overblown by readers and announcers and beat writers, and etc..
“As far as I’m concerned, if you can’t use a good pitch correctly, such that its outcomes suck, then the pitch sucks, period. He has thrown it thousands of times with an abnormally high rate of failure. If his pitching style (location, sequencing) doesn’t mesh with the physical characteristics of his fastball, then he shouldn’t throw it. If he is simply unable to unlock the potential of his “good” fastball, he shouldn’t throw it.”
Then all I have to say is that I’m not entirely sure why you’re concerned that way. If all of the underlying properties of a pitch (spin, release point, velocity (and yea, I know that’s become a recent issue, but it really hasn’t been in the past for Bundy while this pitch was still failing)) indicate that it should be a fine pitch, then the only factors left are the pitches that surround it, the location that he chooses (or possibly fails) to throw it.
Wouldn’t it make sense to alter very changeable factors about a pitch before totally abandoning it and taking up a radical strategy (which by the way, is fundamentally and majorly altering the pitcher’s sequencing which is a component of “style” according to you anyway)?
You’re essentially arguing that bad pitches do not become good, typically, and even by way of doing things like changing location of said pitch and the pitches that surround it, so the rational thing to do is simply pitch it less. While, I agree that what you’re saying may lead to success in some cases, my opinion is that this is not always most efficient, it is not always good for health, and it may not even always be a good idea at all, especially when you consider why the replacement pitch has even been successful to begin with.
Corbin and Bundy’s sliders are fundamentally different, and Corbin is a lefty. Corbin and Bundy have a fundamentally different delivery. The effects on batters of either them using their sliders more are not going to necessarily be the same.
To quote you again:
“If his pitching style (location, sequencing) doesn’t mesh with the physical characteristics of his fastball, then he shouldn’t throw it. ”
So you ACTUALLY believe that a pitcher should not base his sequencing and location style around the physical properties of his pitches, but instead nearly arbitrarily around where and when he prefers to throw what he prefers? Okay, then. There’s a reason why Patrick Corbin throws sliders, Rich Hill throws curveballs, Lance McCullers throws curveballs, Corey Kluber throws cutters, Zack Godley throws curveballs, etc, etc. That reason is the physical properties of those pitches and the other pitches that those pitchers throw lend to those pitchers throwing those pitches that much and in the spots that they throw them. This is pretty obvious shit, and when we, as observers, see an inefficiency in a pitcher’s repertoire we tend to want to see it corrected and might wonder what will happen IF it is corrected.
A pitcher usually cannot change much about the physical properties of his pitches, but usually CAN change just about ANYTHING else. And, another obvious bit that you’ve actually already expounded upon in this article: Bundy’s slider may rely upon the fact that it looks like his fastball. After all, that’s how most sliders work. Unless you’re Chris Sale, or old Kershaw, or Jose Fernandez ( 🙁 ). Then your slider works because hitters literally cannot hit it.
“If he is simply unable to unlock the potential of his “good” fastball, he shouldn’t throw it.”
So Gerrit Cole probably should’ve stopped throwing his (now, #1 fastball in terms of value) four-seamer because it sucked for five years and many thousands more fastballs than Bundy has ever thrown. Gotcha, that’s how things work . When have we determined that a pitcher is “unable” to do this? 3000 pitches, 4000 pitches? 1000? How did Gerrit Cole “unlock” his fastball and turn it from a well-documented below-average pitch to far and away the best in the league? By putting it in any specific location at all really that lends itself to the strength of the pitch (up, in this case). Bundy just seems to throw his over the middle, the same way that Gerrit Cole did in 2017 and before.
Now, having said all this:
1. I agree that he should throw some more sliders and less fastballs. Just not, like, as much as Patrick Corbin.
2. I think the physical characteristics of his fastball THIS year are particularly discouraging compared to years prior when it still sucked.
I simply disagree with the fundamental premise of the article.
One last thing:
“If his pitching coaches were concerned about the structural integrity of his elbow as it relates to breaking ball usage, they probably wouldn’t have him throwing 25% sliders in the first place.”
I’m not saying that his coaches are stopping him. But what I will say is that I’m not particularly concerned with what Orioles’ pitching coaches think, because they clearly lack the ability to think very well.
EDIT: And yes, I’m aware that the fact that Gerrit Cole’s fastball wasn’t good was mostly just straight up puzzling, which means it’s an extreme example.
And Chamberlain didn’t even read your article after all that work put in! I agree with you somewhat btw, going slider crazy is never going to be good for long term health despite the improved results.